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Preparing for an RV Adventure to South America – Why Did We Switch Truck Campers?

In April 2021, Mark and I sold our 19ft campervan Zesty, because we wanted something more robust and less “valuable” to travel in South America, our next major destination. While 15 years old, the van was unique and in immaculate shape; it was a good time to sell it.

(As always, click on or hover over photos in galleries to read their captions.)

Based on experience and preference, we decided to switch gears to a 4X4 Ford pick-up truck (because of its off-road capabilities and the higher clearance) and a truck camper, also called cabover camper or slide-in camper.

Some of you might remember the extensive research, time commitment, and cost this transition entailed, last summer, in Massachusetts. In a Covid market, trucks were hard to find and plenty overpriced. But our patience paid off and we eventually found a fantastic F350 for “only” a few thousand dollars over the usual, pre-Covid market price. The truck barely had 28,000 miles on the odometer and other than its color (black), we had no complaints.

Before we even found this truck in Rhode Island, we bought a 2017 Cirrus 820 truck camper in Vermont. It wasn’t our first choice and we never intended to keep it, but we worried about having as hard a time finding a camper as a truck (“What if we won’t find another one, especially after buying a truck? We better go ahead with this one!”), the price was right, and its owner was okay with the camper remaining on his property for a while.

Three months later, we found Thirsty, the truck, and picked up Temp, the camper. We took our new set-up to Baja over the winter and it performed splendidly for four months. But we kept an eye out for a different camper all along.

So, why would we sell a perfectly good truck camper and swap it for another one, namely a 2008 Lance 830? There are a few reasons.

Our next destination: South America

The Cirrus 820, built by the Amish company nüCamp, is a fancy camper. It’s touted as the Cadillac (or by one dealer as the Taj Majal) of truck campers. Anyone looking at it from the outside or setting foot inside has been in awe of its lines, its quality, its modern looks, and its innovative touches. Our camper received almost as many compliments as our dog, Maya. Almost.

The exterior is streamlined and beautiful, the interior is well-built, comfortable, convenient, cozy, and up-to-date. It offers “radiant heating,” which is quiet and uses radiators that allow heated glycol to move throughout the camper, even in the basement so the tanks don’t freeze. It’s definitely a four-season RV. All the lights are LED, the awning (as well as the jacks) is electric, the TV and microwave are big, the cabinets are built with high-quality wood and care.

In short: the Cirrus 820 is too nice of a camper for us (more a “want” thing than a “need” thing), especially when we plan to “beat it up” in South America. We prefer to do this in a less expensive (and complicated) RV. So, we pretty much sold the Cirrus for the same reason we sold our Sprinter Westfalia van, Zesty.

Financial reasons

The Cirrus 820 is an expensive rig, as far as truck campers go. That modern comfort and convenience comes at a price. Usually, we opt for high-quality boats and campers, counting on living in comfort and safety for a few years and getting most of our “investment” back whenever we sell again. This theory is flawed because of the thousands of dollars that go into improvements, maintenance, repairs, and insurance of our homes on hulls or wheels, but in general, we count on getting the same amount back as we paid. We have been successful at this and even managed to get more than the original purchase for our last two campers, which – in true Mark and Liesbet fashion – are always handed over in better shape than when we bought them.

To the previous point, in this situation, we decided not to go for something at the higher end of the spectrum, mainly for financial reasons. If you’ve followed this blog the last year, you know that life has become much more expensive (for all of us) and Mark and I need to be even more careful with our money as non-retirees. Therefore, we decided to sell the Cirrus camper for a small profit in the current market and buy a much cheaper project camper. It was not our intention to create extra work for ourselves, but many deals fell through before this last turn of events. More about that in a future blog.

Time will tell if purchasing this particular Lance 830 was a good idea. Mark and I never bought a real fixer-upper before and definitely never bought anything from an owner who didn’t take care of his rig. Lots of red flags we ignored. So far, we have run into many more problems than anticipated. It’s worrisome.

Yet, if we pull this off, we will have a bunch of extra spending money to get us to South America. In any case, if we would have kept the Cirrus or purchased another truck camper, we had/have about $4,000 worth of conversions to take care of before heading south. For our current Lance 830, this amount will be raised (hopefully only) by a couple of thousand dollars because of its condition, which has precedence before the other improvements happen.

A real home

This reason builds on the previous one as well. Because we always had “nice” moving homes, we always had to be very careful with them. Not only did this prevent us from going certain places, but it also meant we never made any vessel/camper (with the exception of Irie) our home. What I mean with that is that we never decorated the walls, changed configurations, painted the outside, or added stickers for example. Our home had to remain “pristine” – we covered cushions and left the interior pretty sterile. We wanted our boats and RVs to hold their value.

This was particularly evident with Zesty in Baja in the spring of 2021 and with Temp this past winter, also in Mexico. With our campervan, we avoided certain dirt roads and never entered areas where we might get stuck. With Temp and our truck, we did travel off road (and loved our 4X4), but some of these tracks were so narrow that we always worried about scratches on the fiberglass sides and acrylic windows of the truck camper, which sits wider than the truck.

Oftentimes, we jumped out of the vehicle and cut down prickly branches with a hand saw, leading to bloody hands and frustration. Every time we collected a new scratch, there was heartache, guilt, and annoyance. Eventually, we became wiser about skipping certain areas because the access roads were too narrow. Fortunately, we managed to buff out all the scratches before we sold Temp.

All this goes to explain how this current Lance 830 is not only cheaper, but we will also care less about scratches and making it our home. Jeez, the previous owner put hooks and mirrors everywhere, which caused a lot of damage to the veneer. We have many holes to fill, before we even create new ones! While we think our attitude will be different with this camper, of course we want the systems to work flawlessly, the interior to be comfortable, and the set-up to look like we care. Because we do.

The floorplan

Another main reason we changed campers is something that is unique to the Lance 830, namely its floor plan. You might have noticed when spotting truck campers on the road, or when looking at photos of our previous truck campers (yes, this will be my fourth one!), that the entrance door is located at the back.

Our current Lance 830 (and one other, bigger Lance model) has a side entrance, which is similar to vans. Not only is this safer to exit and enter the camper (in my opinion), as you get in and out from the curb, but the awning is on that side (great when camped during rain) and – most importantly – the floor plan is more open and accessible.

Why is this important? Maya. Yep, back to changing living quarters for our dogs. 😊 (This reference will only mean something if you have read my sailing memoir, Plunge.)

Because of the side entrance and the tiny extra hallway, the dinette area is located in front of the bed instead of along one side of the camper, and there is much more space to walk around a dog lying on the ground.

When I sit on the bed and look aft (towards the back of the camper), our living space looks huge. When I did the same in the Cirrus, all I saw was a narrow hallway and cabinets.

One of the advantages is that there is plenty of room inside to dry Maya off with all this rain we are having in Oregon. I can only imagine what a pain that would have been in the Cirrus, which we mainly used in desert surroundings.

The size

This trip to South America is all about compact living, having everything we need, and being able to park “anywhere,” so size (small enough to drive and live comfortably) is important.

The Cirrus and the Lance of the models we picked are similar in size

When comparing specs for the Cirrus and the Lance, the differences were small. The Lance was a bit lower – we’d take that! – but had a similar length and width. Apparently. Imagine my surprise when we first set foot in this Lance at the dealer lot in Auburn, CA. From my position on the bed, as I mentioned before, the interior looked huge compared to our previous truck camper.

So, I measured the span outdoor from side to side and discovered, indeed, the Lance is about six inches wider than the Cirrus. The specs had been measured differently – Cirrus showed the entire width, Lance showed the width between the jacks… Ooops. So, while we are not thrilled about this extended dimension (even more chances for scratches), we do enjoy the roomier living space. As always, it’s all about compromises and we will deal with it!

Curious about a previous ten-year chapter in our nomadic lives, which includes eight years aboard a 35-foot sailboat in the tropics, check out the travel/adventure/personal memoir I wrote:

Plunge – One Woman’s Pursuit of a Life Less Ordinary

Available on Amazon and elsewhere

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Paperback: US$ 13.99

55 Comments

  1. petespringerauthor

    June 15, 2022 at 20:14

    An interesting read, as always. Just like us regular homeowners, the decisions and expenses are always there. Throw in the price of fuel, and I’m now driving my hybrid 90% of the time rather than the 75% of the time I was driving my truck.

    • I always say that life as a nomad and life in a house are similar in many ways. We all have challenges, decisions, health issues, money issues… But it’s in the differences of both lifestyles where our priorities lie.

      I’d be driving my hybrid around as well. As a matter of fact, if I would have a second car that’s a truck and it wasn’t used often, I would sell it while the market for them is still high. 🙂

  2. After having a few homes on wheels, I imagine that you two know what you want. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a camper with a side door but I can understand why that could be handy. When are you headed to South America? Please bring some of that Oregon rain when you pass by the southwest U.S. 🙂

    • Hi Janis,

      I happily send you ALL of this rain! I can’t believe it’s still only in the fifties here with cloudy, rainy skies in the middle of June. Of course, it’s a weird season. As always when we stay in or visit places for a while. I wonder if we are bringing the unusual weather…

      We have no idea when we are heading to South America. There is a lot going on right now – in our lives, in that of our families, and with this camper. And then there’s the inflation. We might want to make some more money before heading south. So, who knows? I sure hope this journey of ours will still happen this year. I don’t understand how so many people can plan a trip and stick to it.

  3. Not to distract however when will you share with us what is going on with Mark’s parents?

    • With Mark’s parents? His dad passed away early February and the family just had his memorial service last weekend, which Mark helped plan. He’s in Massachusetts right now, taking care of his 86-year-old mom who broke her collar bone from a fall and dealing with his own health.

      • Condolences to you both! I don’t recall seeing the death of his dad in the posts; guess I missed it. What is going on with Mark’s health if its okay to ask or will you be covering that in a future post?

        • Hi Luisa,

          Thank you. I dedicated the following post to my father-in-law’s passing: https://www.roamingabout.com/book-update-march-2022-ups-and-downs-of-an-indie-author/#more-19031

          I don’t often write about personal family dramas and health issues, as that’s not what my blog is about. But when big events happen, which affect our lifestyle, I mention them in passing. And these months, it’s been one thing after another, unfortunately.

          Mark had a life-threatening disease in 2014 (which I wrote about in my book “Plunge”) and still suffers from the consequences, mentally and physically. He needed to get another biopsy done a few weeks ago, but I’m happy to report that the result was negative this time.

  4. Must be great to have more space inside. We can relate to worries about not wanting to scratch the van and keep it pristine. We don’t like narrow roads with scratching plants and trees.
    Maya looks happy in her new digs. I hope you get to have it fixed and organised exactly how you liked it and make it feel like a home for your SA adventures. Any ideas of dates?

    • Hi Gilda,

      We have so much work still and things are paused because of our recent circumstances. Funny how nothing ever goes according to plan and how twists and punches are part of this life… As you know. I miss those days when we were younger and everyone was healthy and there were less worries.

      No dates. Not even a plan how we will get there and what it will cost. First things first: a means and home to live and travel there. Hopefully, we still make it to Colombia by the end of this year.

  5. Hi Liesbet! Sounds like you have a good plan in place. (even though I know you don’t think you are planners this post is evidence that it really helps with the big choices.). And yes, there are ALWAYS adjustments and reasons to be able to flow with changes and circumstances and I’m guessing you and Mark are VERY good at that. (probably far better than most!). Glad it all seems to be working well and that you are well on your way to putting it all together. Looking forward to hearing how it all unfolds. ~Kathy

    • Kathy, you are right. One needs a plan when international travel is involved. Our plan is to get this camper ready before we plan anything else. We have yet to figure out the logistics.

      As far as all the changes and life’s punches, we are not very good at it when there doesn’t seem an end to it. There is a lot of exhaustion, frustration, and fed up-ness going on right now as one thing after another goes wrong.

      So, unfortunately, nothing is working well and we are certainly not well on our way getting things together or getting closer to leaving this country. Mark is back east right now, dealing with his mom, family, and health issues, so everything is paused. Once he returns, we are facing some major camper issues, which we don’t know how to solve yet.

  6. Hi Liesbet, thanks for explaining ‘the change.’ I admit to being curious about that. Now, I get it. At least you guys know enough about what you are doing to make adjustments when needed. I can imagine all the ‘weekenders’ out there who are clueless.

    Like you guys with your rigs, Malcolm and I have always built houses with ‘resale’ in mind in order to preserve the value. We plan to build the last house specific to our needs and comfort – to hell with protecting resale value. We won’t be around to worry about that anyway.

    • Hi Suzanne,

      Yes, we are happy to be resourceful and being able to figure most things out ourselves (often with the help of YouTube :)). So much so that we don’t actually give that much thought. Although, I recently did an interview about frugal living and realized that one of the reasons we keep our costs down is by fixing and maintaining everything ourselves.

      I had no idea you were thinking of building your next home! That’s exciting. Will you blog about this, too? Good for you for making that one everything you need and want without thinking about resale value! There is a time and place for everything. 🙂

  7. That layout does look much roomier, and what a bonus to have more ‘legroom’ for Maya and space to put your bikes inside! I hope you get it fixed up just the way you want it, and have lots of happy adventures with it! 🙂

    • Thanks, Diane. Time will tell if we made a big mistake or not. Either way, we will have to figure something out as we need a place to live and travel in. 🙂

  8. Best of luck with the project! And I hope all the various health issues get resolved soon.

  9. Fascinating reasoning here, Liesbet. All in all, I’d say Maya loves the space, and so do you and Mark. Stay dry in Oregon! It’s been a gorgeous June here (and we deserved it, as you know.) May your new traveling home be good to/for you. I feel that you have wonderful adventures ahead.

    • Hi Pam,

      Yes, Mark has been telling me that the weather is nice over there, after some rain when he first arrived three weeks ago. Lucky you! 🙂

      But, yes, you deserve it after the harsh and crazy winter. Because of everything that has been going on in our lives these weeks, I regret not driving across the country again to be in MA. Rough times.

      I feel bad for people living in the Portland, OR, area. They had a crappy winter and it’s still unusually cold and rainy. My friends have turned the heat back on inside the house and I finally caved – after two weeks of being cold – and am borrowing their space heater. In the middle of June! Crazy stuff.

  10. It’s been a tough period for you and your loved ones – I hope it all gets better soon so you can spend the time you want and need on the camper so you can take it to SA as planned. I applaud your resourcefulness and talents being able to fix your vehicles and capers.

    • Hi Annie,

      Thanks for the wishes. We are keeping our fingers crossed that we can pick up our lives again soon. It’s dependent on many factors: health, the weather, other responsibilities, family dramas, projects, and money. But, with time come answers and solutions. 🙂

      If we wouldn’t be able to fix issues in our campers, vehicles, and boats, we wouldn’t be able to stick to this lifestyle. And not only for financial reasons, but also because we are often in the middle of nowhere, without help and resources available.

  11. Duwan @MakeLikeAnApeman

    June 17, 2022 at 11:16

    I hope you can really make the Lance your home. Ive enjoyed making our rig more homey. It’s important to feel comfortable where you live. And that you can relax a bit about beating it up.

    I’ve also heard that it is better to take a beat up rig to poorer countries just so you don’t look like you have anything to steal.

    I know you have tons of work ahead but you will know that the camper will be in the best condition at the end.

    • You two did an amazing job with and in Ballena Blanca. She is very homey and comfortable. And, arranging our homes on wheels a certain way also makes them more unique and personal.

      It’s a train of thought that the less valuable the rig you take to developing countries, the safer it might be. But, every western rig stands out there, so who knows?

      At the moment, even though we have heaps of work, it would be nice and helpful if we could actually get on with it! 🙂

  12. This all reminds me of buying a house, but it’s good that you have some extra space and can walk around anything laying on the floor (including Maya). The side entrance also seems much more sensible to me for the reasons you gave, Liesbet. It’s hard to believe how some people also treat their homes. The last owner certainly sounds he didn’t care much or had no idea.

    So you’ve been having lots of early summer rain? I’m guessing your trip to south America will take in all 4 seasons.

    • Hi Hugh,

      It is indeed a shame how the previous owner of our camper destroyed so many things without caring or fixing anything. Apparently, he is a guy in his eighties, who is not the nicest person in the world. On hindsight, we would – and should – have backed out of this deal we made over the phone, once we saw it in person… Now, we better stick with it and move on, fixing whatever we can.

      The rain in Oregon has been non-stop. This week is the first time I see blue sky in three weeks, the time Mark has been gone. He will be back soon and now the forecast shows temperatures in the nineties… Spring was skipped again! 🙁

      • i’m pleased that we had a real spring this year, Liesbet. Good to hear that Mark will soon be back and you guys can plan together again.

        • Thanks, Hugh. After a few overly exhausting and taxing weeks in Massachusetts with his family (and doctors), Mark has returned home to me and Maya and now we can focus on our camper projects until it is my time to visit family in Belgium! 🙂

  13. It’s funny how older floor plans are roomier, Liesbet. We found this to be true in our 2013 travel trailer that we still own (and bought in 2017). I think that is in the top three for choices, especially as you live daily in one and share space with pooches! I’ve never heard of a camper with a side entrance–someone was thinking ahead in that design. It was interesting to read your comparisons and I know you and Mark made intelligent and thoughtful choices while saving some dollars. Enjoy the road soon and we are joining summer RV travelers first thing this Monday as we embark on our longest road trip ever.

    • Hi Terri,

      Thank you for being so confident in our choices. I hope you are right, but I am a bit worried we (I) made a mistake with this one. Time will tell. We are facing some serious, annoying, and long projects. At least the rain is supposed to stop. But, a heatwave will hit us this weekend.

      Enjoy your road trip! I hope you have left okay. Ours will have to wait until the fall…

  14. That couldn’t have been more interesting. How intriguing following your decision making matrix. Thanks for sharing all of this.

    • Hi Jacqui,

      I’m glad you found this “comparison” post interesting. Some people are curious about these decisions and mindsets, others will probably get bored by them. 🙂

  15. Wow, thanks for the tours of your lovely homes. I totally get you need space. How exciting that you guys are going to South America! Looking forward to your adventures. <3

    • Hi Debby!

      I should probably stop talking about South America until we have our act together a bit better – projects, prep work, finances, logistics, and health! But now that I am focused on this goal, it gives me direction and focus…

      • Of course you should talk about it. What we focus on we bring. And preparing is all part of it. <3

        • In this case, I agree, as the preparing part is super long. But there are still so many unknowns that talking about our SA plans makes me fear I’ll jinx things or grossly underestimate the amount of time, money, etc. involved. In general, I’d rather do instead of talk, not plan too much, and talk about things when they are actually happening! 🙂

  16. When will you and Mark be embarking on your Great South American Adventure in the new rig?

    • Hi Andre!

      Welcome back to the US. 🙂

      Right now, everything is up in the air again… Nothing is really going our way these months, so we can’t put a date on our departure from this country yet. We still hope before the end of the year!

  17. Hi, Liesbet – I trust you and Mark 100+% when it comes to choosing a camper/truck/van that’s right for you. I look forward to following your future adventures.
    I am so sorry to hear about Mark’s parents and about Mark’s own health. Sending positive thoughts your way.

    • Hello Donna!

      Thank you for weighing, sending positive thoughts, and making me feel better.

      You know, usually, we are happy about our decisions. In this case, we are not, so we are quite apprehensive about all the work, efforts, and money needed to turn this project camper into our home. I guess we keep learning as we go through this life less ordinary. 🙂

  18. Your new home looks comfy and it sounds like you made a good investment!

    • I sure hope you are right, Debra, because we are not so sure about this investment being good. So far, this camper has only caused us headaches and stress… But maybe if we can put our minds and focus on it for a few uninterrupted weeks, we will start seeing things differently. 🙂

  19. Sounds like made a great choice. More room is a benefit for sure. Let us know your time frame for Colombia. Have you looked into the cost of getting your rig into Colombia? We look forward to meeting the three of you.
    Cheers,
    Susan and John

    • Hi Susan,

      We have not gotten to the actual planning stages and logistics of our “hop” to South America as it all starts with a structurally-sound, functioning, and comfortable camper. Once we have made a bunch of progress with those aspects, I’ll start researching.

      I will definitely keep you two posted as I’m looking forward to finally meeting you. Hopefully, you will still be in Colombia by then, as I’ve heard rumors about a move… 🙂

  20. We’re hoping to get a ‘slide-on’ and Ute in a few years’ time to travel through Australia.
    I might have missed the weight of the Lance vs. the Cirrus? The Lance looks so spacious!
    How powerful a vehicle to carry either?

    • Hi Nila,

      That sounds like a fabulous adventure down under! I’d love to explore Australia with a truck camper (or 4WD camper van) extensively one day as well. Well, I guess for three months at a time as we are not citizens. 🙂

      The dry weight of the Lance 830 (2,240 pounds) is actually quite a bit less than the Cirrus 820 (2,900 pounds). I’m glad you asked as I didn’t realize the difference was that big, which is another huge advantage of our change. Although, so far we haven’t seen a difference in fuel economy…

      Either way, these types of truck campers need a short-bed heavy-duty pickup truck of at least 1/2 ton. Ours is a 1-ton Ford F-350. Not sure about the equivalents in Oz, but I hope this helps.

      We did a lot of comparing, research, thinking, talking, and shopping around before we settled on this Lance 830 model for the reasons I mention in my post. It is a very unique camper, so we want to make it work.

      • It is very unique and thank you for all of the extra details.

        We bought an old motorhome in the UK and had that for a few years. Travelled through UK, Spain, France, and Italy on and off over a few years before we sold it again. Like you, I can only stay in Europe for a total of 3 months then it’s out again. Wonderful time and love the lifestyle. But then again, living on a boat for 21 years, the principle is not much different…

        • Yes, you and I are very used to the nomadic lifestyle. But there is one giant difference between cruising and RVing (in my opinion): traveling overland is much, much easier. Less challenging and less restrictive (weather dependent…). Both lifestyles have their ups and downs, for sure. The space and tankage on boats is bigger and the feeling of privacy and peace can’t be beat. 🙂

  21. Hi Liesbet,

    I check in on your posts regularly, curious where you are in your adventures. I recall how you and Mark switched over to a truck and camper last year. You obviously do your research and fascinating how you determine pros and cons on the different campers. Ha, ha…almost as many compliments as Maya. You greatly remind me how it is not a black and white situation…red flags…worrisome.

    You make a very important point “we wanted our boats and RBs to hold their value” …a specific approach to caring for them. Back again, to the positives of your current Lance 830…like you say well…”our attitude will be different”

    I am reading your post with a bittersweet feeling and a lump in my throat. My daughter and her family of 5 are presently living in our 8 foot 35 + year old camper on a friend’s property in a mud pit (her words) the past 5 weeks. Complicated issues finding housing. Our well designed, very, very good, taken care of, camper with fond memories will never be the same again (I have seen glimpses of photos) It is a material object, yet means a great deal to me on many levels and we still use it (or used to use it a few times a year) Not sure what we will do next since we have booked a few campsites over the next few months. Not sure what shape the camper will be in. My daughter and her family are moving into a more permanent home over the next few weeks. Peace of mind for everyone.

    I read your June posts about the serious family priorities. No words and infinite hugs.

    A long comment this time…I look forward to checking in on you regularly, Liesbet. Love your phrase “it’s all about compromises and we will deal with it!” ❤️

    • Hello Erica,

      Thank you so much for your thoughtful comment. And for being there – for us – from afar. I can tell from your remarks that you truly care and that warms my heart.

      I’m sorry to read about the situation with and in your camper. Having someone (let alone five people) live in a camper fulltime is not the same as using it for weekend or vacation getaways. But it seems that there is a solution at the end of the tunnel. I hope you will be able to use your camper for the those booked campsites and it will still feel and look the same. 🙂

      Unfortunately, our misfortunes – or misadventures – keep chasing us and we are in a similar situation as your daughter right now, except with no home at the end of it. We are not able to figure out and deal with the issues of our current camper, so we need a new plan. Being “homeless” or not having the prospect of a new home – with all our plans up in the air – after months of hard work, money, and energy trying to make this work has caused tremendous worries and stress. On a bright note – our health seems to be fine.

      • Oh, darn, Liesbet…when it rains it pours. Especially with all of your effort, money, physical and emotional energy. I hope something comes to light that becomes a home, even temporarily. Strange times we live in…the supply chain…cost of things…difficult to feel positive when life is challenging. I do find kindness makes a difference, even from the other side of our planet. 😀 Infinite hugs in your direction. xo 💕

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